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Why Rarotonga is a sh*tty place for Americans to visit.Country forums / Pacific Islands & Papua New Guinea / Cook Islands | ||
So I just spent a week in Rarotonga for my Kiwi cousin's wedding and I felt I should share my thoughts somewhere online. While seeing my family and the wedding itself were both awesome, I would have really regretted going to this island if it was only for a vacation. I found it to be expensive, somewhat unwelcoming, and often seemed contradictory (laid back but up tight). Upon departure, I met several Americans at the airport who were flying back home, and many were loudly criticizing their experience. My take is that the island is essentially one big New Zealand tourist trap, kinda like Hawaii is to the USA. However, because it follows New Zealand customs, several things that really irk American travelers (at least myself, my family, and the other Americans I met at the airport) are common on the island. I'll try to break it down:
Anyway I should get back to work but I won't be returning to the island. I saw mostly positive things on lonely planet about Raro and was pretty disappointed by the end of our trip. Hopefully my post will help others make a more informed decision about where they want to spend their hard earned American dollars. At the fancier resorts the service was better but I prefer to visit countries where common courtesy doesn't have to be bought for $500+ per night. -Ryan | ||
Well, Rarotonga was never high on my Pacific wish list and it never will be, I guess. However when you "met several Americans at the airport who were flying back home, and many were loudly criticizing their experience"+, didn't you think that +loudly criticizing an English-speaking host country while still being there may actually be one of the things that don't exactly endear your people to the locals? ;-) | 1 | |
jesus this is some seriously negative press on raro. I was in rarotonga and aitutaki and have nothing but good things to say about both of them. The people were great and the islands were beautiful (especially aitutaki. The most beautiful place I have ever been). And yes I am American. I was also in new zealand for two months travelling around both the north and south islands and the people were also amazing. Some of the best people ive met travelling so far have been kiwis. It looks like you expected a lot more than what the island actually is. Sounds like you need to take a chill pill and stop generalizing for all of us Americans | 2 | |
A nice report, good use of "paragrphs". Thee are many other places to visit in the South Pacific, we've placed the Cooks at the bottom. | 3 | |
Two visits and I found that people went out of their way to be nice to me. One example: I was at R.arotonga airport and inquired if the Saturday market was open, a woman offered to (and did) drive me there and back on the back of her motor scooter just so that I could buy donuts. I think the C.ook Islanders are the loveliest people that I have met. Resorts in general (regardless of where they are) tend to overcharge for items and have various nickel and dime shenanigans. (Such as the resort fees found at many U..S. resorts.) One thing I do want to note for my fellow A.mericans who are considering visiting: the resorts in the C.ooks are not (obviously in my opinion) the best accommodation option. You are far better off looking at boutique properties or renting a private house. (Speaking of resort price point.) The resorts found in the C.ooks are generally past their prime. Periods added to avoid LP spam links. | 4 | |
As an American I'd like to apologize for the OP to all Kiwis and Cook Islanders. We try and contain people from California to the US but every once and a while one escapes and embarrasses us like this. ;-) I think the OP came to Rarotonga and found just what he was looking for. He knew ahead of time that 50% of Kiwis didn't like Americans and Kiwi hoteliers and restaurant mangers were out to take advantage him. He knew he would find racial tensions high with down-trodden locals working in inferior jobs spitting in the guests' food. My experience has been exactly the opposite.... Kiwis I know, and I've been there four times, are among the friendliest anywhere. I didn't see any racial tension in the Cooks in five extended trips there. I've also never met nor heard of an American that pretended to be Canadian to avoid the wrath of US-hating New Zealanders. Assuming you know a person's motives or prejudices, especially a person of a different culture or nationality, is a mistake. If you do it, you'll find exactly what you suspect. It's a human fallacy known as "positive affirmation." It's the source of a lot of grief for a lot of people. | 5 | |
Like H2ooh I had the exact opposite experience in Raro, even with a N. American accent (I'm Canadian). It was all Soluth Pacific hospitality everywhere I went, although I didn't stay at or patronize top-end anything (can't afford that). But I have run into Americans, on a few occasions in Fiji and NZ, who told me they were pretending to be Canadian, one having gone so far as to keep his passport inside a Canadian passport holder (don't know if you can even find these things anymore). Another one was "holding court," so to speak, in a lounge in a resort in Fiji, blathering on about life in - my hometown of all places - and when I caught him out with a question (in private, didn't want to embarrass him in front of his rapt audience) about a phony scenic spot he eventually admitted he was an American who had never even been to Canada. He was from Texas, which gave the game away the moment he opened his mouth. But that was back in the late 80s/early 90s, and I'm surprised if that paranoia is still around. Pity, it's the individual that matters, not citizenship or country of origin. | 6 | |
I think a person pretending to be something they are not says a lot more about the pretender than the people they are attempting to deceive. | 7 | |
I just went back and reread the OP. I doubt if he spent time with any of the locals of any race. He probably just hung out with others just like himself. I'll never understand why someone would spend thousands of dollars to go to a destination like the Cook Islands or New Zealand and then spend time sitting around talking to other tourists like themselves. How depressing! and how would you ever learn anything? | 8 | |
About 5 years ago in the Middle East I met 2 American ladies telling even me (so not just locals!) they were Norwegians. Ones pretending to be Canadians seem to be more common though - was definitely still so in the Bush era. | 9 | |
Wow! And Americans wonder why they encounter hostility around the world....guys like this make it difficult for so many wonderful Americans I have met on my 12+ trips to The Cooks and elsewhere in my travels....lighten up guy... Edited by: mapleleaf | 10 | |
Ditto to 7, 8, 9, and 10!! | 11 | |
Gimme a T crap. | 12 | |
I am an american living in the Cooks nine months of the year. Fortunately I do not run into too many americans, thank god. There's nothing worse than an american with a complaint. If you want perfect, go someplace else and leave our " paradise" alone. | 13 | |
It's been 6 days so I thought I'd return to the forum. 700 views and a dozen replies... I skimmed through the responses, mostly what I expected. I wanted to comment on a few posts that I saw pop up: Were we really loud Americans in the airport?: To the smug Ex-Pats and other internationals who hate on the "typical" American: As I stated in my original post, I am well aware of the International perceptions about Americans. I get that we stand out and some people think we should tone it down or whatever when we travel abroad. That's fine and dandy. I work hard 48 weeks a year and would like to be able to kick back and enjoy myself on vacation rather than worry about returning my towel 15 minutes late, whether or not I ordered that extra $4 side of ketchup, or what the bartender thinks about Obama's latest approval rating. There are other red blooded Americans like me that want to enjoy our lives, particularly our down time, and spend our dollars where they are appreciated. For me and many on my flight home, Raro simply wasn't one of those places. From the tone of the posters claiming local status on here, it sounds like Raro folk don't want Americans around anyway. So in that respect, I'd say Yanks avoiding Raro is a win-win! :) Edited by: sdguero | 14 | |
sdguero..... You need to check your assumptions at the door. Not everyone that disagrees with you is a Prius-driving tree-hugger. Nor do they assume you are a pig-headed American a-hole (although you are working hard at trying to change that perception.) I disagree with you. I'm a working American, I've lived in CA (including working in East LA), drive a gas-guzzling V-8 SUV and really like 99% of my fellow Americans. On my first trip to the Cooks I stayed at the same hotel you did. I share your opinion of it. But I didn't allow it or the other "tourist traps" on Raro to taint my opinion of the entire country. I wouldn't think of giving them that power, they don't deserve it. What you did is comparable to spending a bad weekend in Tijuana and writing a report on how sh*tty a place M.exico is to visit. Try spending more time with people unlike yourself and then listen when they talk. You'll be happier with yourself and with life in general. | 15 | |
When we travel overseas, we always tell the people we're from Canada and therefore they don't expect a tip. Pretty funny {:"} | 16 | |
Two words sdguero - STAY HOME. Jeez. I am just so glad that my Californian American family are nothing like you. We spent 3 weeks in the Cook Islands with them and they and we loved it. | 17 | |
It's decidedly a case of bad fit in your case Ryan - it happens, so get over it! Has it similarly occured to you that other nationalities may not exactly be USA fans either, for a diverse number of reasons. As for anyone pretending to be something they aint when globe-trotting, why would individuals consider doing so - unless they perceived that being a Canadian made them more acceptable in the eyes of another Commonwealth country? But the accent, cultural values and behaviour would be giveaways undoubtedly. I empathise with all Canadian people if this be the case. As to mixing and mingling in Rarotonga (expats & locals together) it naturally follows that if you respect others in the manner in which you wish to be treated, perhaps you too would have found yourself among welcoming and supportive residents. Are you also planning to have a go at Kiwis and their lifestyle on the New Zealand forums - since you complain about their ill-intended treatment towards you on the Cook Islands forum? in fact it would be really helpful if you could express your opinions in a letter to the editors of both the Cook Islands News & the New Zealand Herald. Lets see what feedback you can expect to receive through this media channel; and how. Happy future travels. | 18 | |
Well i wanted to like alot of the comments on here, i havent been to the cooks yet, going in May, but online the people have been super sweet and helpful, i like Americans, my ex was American and the only thing i didnt like about America was the racism in the south, which i only personally saw white people being racist, but prob goes two ways alot. This post however i have to wonder if its actually about your being American, or just you in general! | 19 | |